tv P.M. Question Time CSPAN November 5, 2012 12:00am-12:30am EST
of lead to better destination. it means 20 trillion dollars of debt that he will not have. it means crippling unemployment. stagnant take-home pay. the press tom values. a devastated military and unless we change course, we may be looking at another recession. the question of this election comes down to this, do you want more of the same or do you want change? >> we know what changed looks like and what governor romney is selling ain't it. giving more power to the banks is not change. tax cuts for the wealthy is not changed. refusing to answer questions about the details of your policy, that is definitely not change. ruling out a compromise by pledging to rubber-stamp the tea party folks, that is not change.
changing the facts when they are inconvenient your campaign, not to change. >> tuesday night, watched election coverage with president obama in chicago and house and senate victory in concession speeches from across the country. and your reaction by phone, e- mail, facebook, and twitter. cover starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> this week on british prime minister's questions -- the european union budget, a report on the future of the british economy, and the closure of the ford motor plant. david cameron said he would veto the budget if it is not in the best interests of the u.k. and accused the opposition party of having the position of "opportunism." this is about half an hour.
[no audio] aker. i'm sure the whole house will wish to join me in >> i am sure the whole house will wish to join me and pay tribute to corporal david o'connor of the marines and a corporal channing day of the royal army medical corps. we owe them and all others who have lost their lives in deep debt of gratitude.
their courage and dedication and professionalism will never be forgotten by our nation. our sincere condolences with their colleagues, friends, and families. mr. speaker, this morning i had meetings, and in addition to my duties in this house, will have meetings later today. >> here, here. >> andrew stephenson. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i'm sure the whole house will want to associate itself with the prime minister's remarks and send our deepest con doll lenses to the families. can the prime minister confirm that he will reject the veto and give advice on those who gave our veto away? [cheers and applause] >> i can absolutely, i can absolutely give my honorable friend that assurance. this government is taking the
toughest line in these budget negotiations of any government since rejoined the european union. at best we would like it cut, at worst frozen, and i'm quite prepared to use the veto if we don't get a deal that's good for britain. but let's be clear, mr. speaker, it is in our interest to get the deal because a seven-year freeze would keep our budget down. labour's position is one of complete opportunism. they send the budget through the roof, and now they want to posture and get a good deal for britain. -- [inaudible] see right through it. >> ed miliband. >> can i start by paying tribute to corporal david o'connor and corporal channing day, their deaths are a reminder of the unrelenting danger that our troops face on a daily basis on our behalf.
they both showed the utmost courage and bravery, and our condolences go to their family and friends. mr. speaker, the prime minister has an opportunity today to get a mandate from this house for a real-term production on the eve of -- [inaudible] which he said he wants. over the next seven years, which he could take to the negotiations in europe. why is he resisting the opportunity? >> i think, mr. speaker, the whole country will see through what is rank opportunity. people haven't forgotten the fact that they gave away half our rebates in one negotiation. that they agreed to a massive increase to the e.u. budget under their government, and now today they haven't even put down their own resolution on this issue. the nation will absolutely see straight through it. he's playing politics, he's not serving the country. [cheers and applause]
>> ed miliband. >> mr. speaker, when it comes to consistency, if we've forgotten what he said as leader of the opposition just four months before the last general election. this is what he said. i would have thought they were interest inside what the prime minister said when he was leader of the opposition, mr. speaker. this is what he said. at a time when budgets are being cut in the u.k., he said, does the prime minister agree in reviewing the e.u. budget the main purpose should be to push for a real term cut? that's what he said when he was in opposition. so, mr. speaker, when it comes to opportunism, this prime minister is a gold medalist. [cheers and applause] at a time when he's cutting the education budget by 11%, the transport budget by 15% and the police budget by 20%, how can he even be giving up on a cut in
the e.u. budget before the negotiations have been in. >> we have to make cuts in budgets because we're dealing with a record debt and deficit. [cheers and applause] if he wants to talk about consistency, perhaps he can explain why his own members of the european parliament voted against the budget freeze in -- [inaudible] last year? perhaps he can explain why the socialist group in the european parliament that he's such a proud member of are calling not for an increase in the budget, not for a freeze in the budget, but for a 200 billion euro increase in the budget, and while they're at it they want to get rid of the rest of the british rebate. is that his ?oil. >> ed milliband. >> it's good to see -- it's good to see -- it's good to see the crimson tide -- >> order, order. government back benches including ministers, apparently approaching maturity. they've really got --
[laughter] no, i dare not. they've got to tackle their behavioral problems before it's too late. ed miliband. >> well, he's certainly getting very angry, mr. speaker. maybe he's worried about losing the post this afternoon. and the reality is, our people feel the same way as him on the european parliament -- [inaudible] ten days ago. the reality is this, he can't commit anyone on europe. last year he announced out of the negotiations with a veto, and the agreement went ahead anyway. he's thrown in the towel even before these negotiations have begun. he can't convince european leaders, he can't even convince his own back benchers. he is weak abroad, he is weak at home. it's john major all over again. >> his position is completely incredible. he says he wants a cut in the e.u. budget, but he doesn't sanction a veto. we've made clear we will use the
veto as i've used it before, so let me ask him, will you use the vie toe -- veto. >> order. order. i won't be using the veto, and i will ask the prime minister, about the tenth time i've asked him to respect parliamentary procedure in this matter. >> thank you, mr. speaker. the -- [inaudible] region faces many challenge, particularly with the announcement of job losses at ford last week. will my right honorable friend agree with me that the case for a city deal for south hampton and portsmouth is particularly compelling? >> i do think it is particularly compelling that we make sure south hampton has a city deal. i understand they are on the list. obviously, the news from ford was very disappointing. it was black spot in otherwise a very, very strong performance by the british automotive industry, and i know the business secretary will be working very
closely with the city council to do everything we can to help people find jobs. >> mr. andrew miller. >> mr. speaker, might i ask a very straightforward question that should command a straightforward answer? in the forthcoming police and crime commissioner elections, it's predicted that the turn is going to be as low as 20%. does the prime minister think that gives democratic legitimacy? >> i want the turnout to be as high as possible, but i recognize in new elections for a new post it is always a challenge. it's even a challenge when you've got dedicated labor mps resigning from this house to stand as police and crime commissioners. but one point the crime commissioner will be able to make is to celebrate the fact that since the election crime's down 20%. >> [inaudible] >> thank you, mr. speaker. in recent months northern lincolnshire has benefited from a number of positive announcements from local governments and the private sector that will boost the
economy. however, my right honorable friend will be aware that kimberly-clark announced the closing of their factory in my constituency last week with a lose of up to 500 jobs. can my right honorable friend assure me that everything possible will be done by the government to attract new bids to the area? >> i know it is very sad news for the workers. as i understand it, the job council's working to establish a local task force, and the government will give it our support to support employees and help them find alternative employment. >> steve robberham. >> thank you, speaker. following the phone hacking scandal, self-regulation of the press by the press is simply no longer acceptable to the public. response to two recent polls to media self-regulation.
mr. speaker, your ministers have been briefing against -- [inaudible] whose side are you on? >> members really must adhere to the proper procedures of this house which they ought to know by now. prime minister. >> i think we should wait for the leveson report to come out. a lot of work has been done. what i want to see is a robust regulatory system, and as i said in the house i think last week, to make sure if newspapers get things wrong that they can be fined, journalists can be properly investigated. we know what a proper regulatory system should look like, we don't have one now, we need one for the future. >> jack loprestie. >> thank you, mr. speaker. first, i'd like to echo the tribute to our armed forces and our fallen comrades, their families and our loved ones, a huge debt of honor and gratitude. last week we saw the sentencing of former staff of -- [inaudible]
hospital who were found guilty of ill treatment and neglect. i had hoped these prosecutionings would help to bring closure, at least a sense of justice to the victims and their families. however, now we've learned the -- [inaudible] may have been subject to abuse elsewhere. does the prime minister agree with me that care providers such as -- [inaudible] should be subject to prosecution for willful corporate neglect? >> well, i pay tribute to what my honorable friend said about our armed forces. on the issue, i think anyone who saw those television pictures about how very vulnerable people were being treated would be absolutely shocked and just like me and i'm sure like him what about to make sure that the law will go exactly where the evidence goes. they are shocking pictures, shocking things that happened. we should judge our society by how we deal with the most vulnerable and needy people, and
what happened was completely unacceptable. >> ed miliband. >> mr. speaker, our economy has the longest double-dip recession since the war, but lord -- [inaudible] said today and i quote, the message that i keep hearing is the u.k. doesn't have a strategy for growth and wealth creation. who does the prime minister blame for that? [cheers and applause] >> what michael actually said is the coalition is fundamentally on the right track. he said i praise its work for the industrial strategy plans, for pioneering city revolution and for the revolutions in education and tackling unemployment. that is what michael said. but frankly, we can sit here all afternoon trading quotes. i think he is making a much bigger point, and this is an excellent report. what he's saying is actually over decades in our economy it became too centralized, regions and nations of our countries fell behind, manufacturing
halved as a share of national income during the last government, and during the boom years, for instance, in the west midlands there were no net new private sector jobs. he's dealing with the big issues. what a pity that all he can do is stand up and try and read out a quote. >> ed milliband. >> mr. speaker, he says the report is on the right track, goodness knows what he would have said if it was on the wrong track. business has no confidence in him, and deregulation -- his chosen approach -- is not the answer. now, let me turn to a specific area of the report, recommendation 61 which i'm sure he's familiar with. [laughter] he says, and i quote: the government needs to set out a definitive and unambiguous energy policy. [laughter] this is, obviously, mr. speaker, an appropriate day to be considering this recommendation on energy after the last 20 -- it's good to see the business secretary down the bench, by the way. i'm sorry that growth committee
that he's on is so unmemorable that he can't remember it. this is an appropriate day to be considering this recommendation. so his energy -- i'm rather enjoying this, mr. speaker. his energy secretary, his energy secretary says he's against wind farms and enough is enough. well, if -- >> order. order. let me just say the government back benches is very straightforward, they either calm down, or the session will be extended at whoever's inconvenience that may involve. let's just be very clear, incredibly straightforward. ed miliband. >> mr. speaker, the energy minister says he's against wind farms and enough is enough while his energy secretary is gung ho for them. who speaks for his government? >> well, today the jokes have been bad and the substance has been bad too. it's not a good day. i tell you why it is a good day.
it's a good day to talk about energy policy because today -- [inaudible] investing 20 million pounds in our new -- [inaudible] [cheers and applause] today is a good day to talk about energy because there's more investment in renewable energy under three years of this government than under 13 years of their government. and it's a good day to talk about energy policy because we've got a green investment bank up and running. that is what's happening under this government. there's been no change towards renewable energy. let me explain exactly. we've got a big pipeline of onshore and offshore wind projects coming through. we're committed to those. but frankly, all parties are going to have to have a debate about what happens once those targets are met, and he ought to understand that if he could bother to look at the substance. >> ed miliband. >> that was a completely useless answer, mr. speaker. [cheers and applause] there are investors all around this country who want certainty about energy policy.
you've got -- it's very simple for the prime minister. you've got one minister who says he's totally against wind energy, that's the energy minister he appointed having sacked the previous guy, and he's got the energy secretary who's gung ho for it. now, he just need to make a choice for where he stands. he's got a wind turbine on his house, so i thought he was in favor. lord castlestein said in his report there are people who resisted his ideas. we know who they are, the chancellor and the prime minister. the evidence of the last two and a half years is the deregulation, sink or swim, their answer is not the answer. the lord's right and they're wrong. >> well, i've o got one thing to say. not you, mr. speaker, he, he's no michael hesselstein. [cheers and applause] >> [inaudible] order.
order. i want to hear mr. swales, and i'm sure the people of redcar do. >> thank you, mr. speaker. the russians want to award the prestigious medal to the governments of australia, canada, new zealand and the usa have agreed, the u.k. government has refused. will the prime minister get this decision reversed quickly so that my constituent, john ramsey and the rest of the dwindling band of veterans get the recognition they so richly deserve? >> i have every sympathy with my right honorable friend and with his constituent, and that is why we have asked sir john holmes to conduct this review not just into medals in general, but specifically at some of the most specific cases of which the arctic convoy is the most pressing. and he is getting on with it. >> chris bryant.
[laughter] >> the foreign secretary, the foreign secretary said yesterday that the rules of this house require that ministers answer questions. so there is a stash of embarrassing e-mails, isn't there? adam smith had to publish every single one of his e-mails and ended up resigning. why won't the prime minister publish all of his e-mails? can he really be a fit and proper person to judge on the future of press regulation if he won't come clean with the british public? [cheers and applause] >> there is, actually, another rule of this house which is be that you insult someone in this house, you do an apology, and i have to say i am still waiting. the fact is, it is this government that set up the lev szob inquiry, and -- leveson inquiry, and i gave all the information asked to that inquiry. >> [inaudible] >> the honorable --
[inaudible] pussycat, mr. speaker, is a coffee shop in my constituency. they've just had their business rate hiked up by 700%, and the chancellor's coming after the money even though they haven't yet heard the appeal which means it might have to close and jobs will be lost. can the prime minister come to the rescue? is. >> i have every sympathy with the business he mentions. of course, business rates are a devolved issue, so this needs to be taken up with the welsh assembly government. we've doubled small business rate relief to help half a million small firms, we've made it easier to claim small business rate relief, and we've given local councils new powers to levy discounts in order to support the sorts of shops and pubs that he's referring to. i'm sure that's the right approach to england, and i'm sure he'll want to take that approach to wales. >> heidi alexander. >> thank you, mr. speaker. in 2007 the prime minister
identified one of 29 hospitals he would be prepared to get into a bare knuckle fight over, yet on monday it emerged that louison's a and e and maternity services could end up paying the price for financial services and elsewhere. which side of this bare knuckle fight is he now on? >> the fight we're on is increasing the resources going into the nhs. that is the decision we have taken, and she is on the side of cutting money into the nhs. what we have done, which the previous government didn't, is set out that there will be no changes to nhs configurations unless they have the support of local gps, unless they have strong public and patient engagement, unless they're backed by sound clinical evidence and provide support for choice. those protections were never there under the last government, they are now. >> margaret james.
>> thank you, mr. speaker. in light of last week's positive growth figures, does the prime minister agree with me the policies regarding more spending, borrowing and debt is are the precise opposite of what the country needs. >> my honorable friend is entirely right. the economy is growing, unemployment is coming down, inflation is coming down, the rate of small business creation is going up, there are a million more people employed in the private sector than there were two years ago, and the one absolute certainty is that the worst approach -- and michael hesselstein confirmed it in his report -- is to see more spending and debt. we need to grow the deficit. >> jim shannon. >> i think the prime minister -- corporal channing day always wanted to join the army and for
eight years served as a medic. our job is to save lives -- [inaudible] to see someone willing to hell when all -- help when all hell is bursting down them. he will soon return to a mother, father, fors, brothers who loved her dearly. to the the community who are proud of the contribution she's made. [inaudible] her courage, her bravery and also her heroism. prime minister, would you agree with me that army medics are often the unsung heros of conflict, and would he degree to meet with me to discuss the implementation of -- [inaudible] >> well, first of all, i'd be very happy to meet him and his colleagues. it's something i have spoken to the deputy, the first minister and the deputy first minister in northern ireland. it hope it can be done, and i'd be happy to have that meeting.
i think he's absolutely right that hose in the medical regiment do a fantastic job. it's been a huge honor and a privilege for me to meet some of them including in afghanistan, and when you see the service they provide, you really can put your hand on your heart and know that british military personnel in theater are getting as good medical care as i think anyone ever in history has got. it is truly remarkable what they do. >> [inaudible] >> number eight, sir. >> prime minister, the hospital will retain its actions emergency and maternity services. any suggestion otherwise is simply scare mongering of the worst kind. >> [inaudible] >> kettering has the sixth highest household growth rate in the whole country, and a&e admissions are up 10 percent year on year. given the hospital has been at the heart of the community for well over 100 years, don't local
people deserve a clear assurance that our much-loved and badly-needed local hospital has a bright future ahead of it? >> well, i gave my honorable friend the strongest possible assurance, and the point i've made as i made to the honorable lady opposite is that there can't be any changes unless there's full public consultation, unless there is the support of local gps and strong public and patient engagement. but in the case of debtor oring, that is not on the agenda. as i said, any suggestion by the opposition is simply scare mongering of the worst kind, and i can see they're at it again. >> lindsay roy. >> thank you, mr. speaker. it's been said again and again to the house, but the importance of skill is to promote economic growth. so why, mr. product, did the -- [inaudible] >> the number of apprenticeships under this government is about 900,000. it is a record number, and it's
hugely increased. >> julian sturdy. >> thank you, mr. speaker. the government recently announced plans to extend the freeze on council tax for the third year. unfortunately, the -- [inaudible] and has moved with remarkable speed to confirm a 2% increase next year. can my honorable friend agree with me that such a -- [inaudible] apparently out of order and would he urge counsel to look again? >> i will certainly join my honorable friend in doing that. the government has made money available so that counsels can freeze their counsel tax for a third year in a row. i think this is a very important way of demonstrating that we're on the side of people who want to work hard and get on who struggle to pay the bills, and i think, frankly, all councils should recognize that a council tax freeze is in the interest of all our citizens. >> dr. alan whitehead. >> when did the prime minister become aware of the plans to close ford's south hampton --
[inaudible] and was he aware of those plans when his government awarded a large sum of money from the regional growth fund to that company just a few days earlier? >> obviously, these issues were discussed, and we worked very closely with all the automotive industry companies in the united kingdom. as i said earlier, the news from most of them, from nissan, from toyota, from jaguar land rover has been extremely positive. what happened at ford is clearly regrettable, but we must do everything we can to help those people into work. >> dr. julian hopper. >> green growth is a key part of the economy. is the prime minister still committed to this being the greenest government ever particularly when it comes to policies on renewable energy? >> well, it is under this government we have seen more investment in green energy in three years than we have in 13 from the party opposite. the green investment bank that we promised,s that is up and running.
the carbon floor price that we spoke about, that is in place. this is, indeed, a very green government, and it's sticking to its promises. >> [inaudible] >> the number of people waiting more than four hours in accident and emergency units has more than doubled in the last two years, and the prime minister won't intervene to stop the closures of a&e units at middle sex hospital, we now -- [inaudible] and i suspect despite his weasel words, kettering hospital too. [inaudible] >> i have to say to the honorable gentleman, i could not have been any clearer about the future of connectionerring hospital, and for him to say that, i think, is scare mongering of the worst kind. but let me tell him what is happening at the hospitals that serve his constituents. in may 2010 there were 52 patients waiting longer than 12 months. how many are there now? none under this government.